Motion sensor activate/deactivate?

[Thomas_Anderson]

Hello,
is there a possibility to deactivate a motion sensor by pressing a button on a dimmer switch? Your app itself can do this but i did not find it as a function/action…

Eure App an sich kann das jedoch habe ich es nicht als funktion/aktion gefunden…

Example: Corridor
A motion sensor is installed there which dims the light in the corridor in the evening. Sometimes I would like the corridor to be set to 100% light and the motion sensor to be deactivated in the evening, for this I would like to use a dimmer switch…

function:
Button: 1 (ON)
-deactivate motion sensor
-light 100%

Button: 0 (OFF)
-activate motion sensor
-light 0%

[Dets]

@Thomas_Anderson

is there a possibility to deactivate a motion sensor by pressing a button on a dimmer switch? Your app itself can do this but i did not find it as a function/action…

You can deactivate the motion sensor (in german: “Aktionen des Bewegungssensors abbrechen”), but for me it doesn’t do anything. I hope that one day it will work …

[Thomas_Anderson]

Unfortunately not, because I do not want to abort any action, it should not be triggered in the first place.

Example: Corridor
I walk through the hallway, the light goes on through the motion detector, on 50% and after 2 minutes off again.
So far so good.

Now I want to do something in the corridor and press ON on the remote control, now the corridor light should stay on 100% until I press OFF, then the motion detector should automatically control the light again.

What I need is the functionality:
Button 1

1. motion detector off
2. light 100%

Button 2

1. motion detector on
2. light off

(
https:///api/12345/sensors/7/state
{“on”:false}

… or something like that

)

The APP already comes with the functionality activate/deactivate, so it should also be possible to deactivate the motion detector, unfortunately I can’t find this setting, just a “cancel” for which I can’t imagine any scenario at all

[Thomas (Thomas Vos)]

Hello, thanks for the detailed explanation. Switching on/off a motion sensor from a button is currently not possible. It is on the wish list for future development.

The “cancel motion sensor actions” action is described here: How to use "Cancel Motion Sensor Actions"

[Tom_en_Ilja (Tom van den Heuvel)]

I’m looking for the same function! Any word on when this function is going to be implemented?
Please make it! Already paid for your great app!

[Sed95 (Sed)]

Hi,

First of all, good job for the work done on this app I really appreciate it!

I have the same need, I’m building a home-made alarm system composed by a motion sensor and a 120db siren connected to a smart plug.
When the sensor detects something the smart plus is actived and the siren works for 5 minutes then automatically stops, an alexa actions triggers also a notification and an email with ifft).

I want to configure a dimmer switch to turn on the sensor (=activate the alarm, when I leave home) and turn off the sensor (=disable the alarm when I come back).
Currently I’m forced to use the app each time and it is not efficient.

[Hooolm (Søren Holm)]

That is a super interesting use case @Sed95

I would really appreciate the same feature, to activate/deactivate a particular motion sensor as an assignable action.

My case is far more mundane. I have a motion sensor in my bedroom, to provide a bit of guiding nightlight if one of us gets out of bed to pee. However, if I were to use the dimmer switch to turn on the lights manually, I’d want to disable the motion sensor, for the duration of whatever it is I Have To Deal With.

As in
Button 1, First press:
Set scene in Bedroom
Disable Bedroom motion sensor

Button 0, First press:
Switch off Bedroom
Activate Bedroom motion sensor

As far as I can reason, the requested feature is necessary for that purpose.

Cheers,
Holm

[Sed95 (Sed)]

If you are interrested in the use case with the alarm please not that I replaced the Hue Smart Plug by an Amazon Smart plug, the Hue one automatically starts enabled after 2 power shut downs whereas the Amazon plug in this case stays disabled.

@Thomas Any idea when you will implement the feature? by the way is it currently technically doable ?

[Thomas (Thomas Vos)]

@Sed95

@Thomas Any idea when you will implement the feature? by the way is it currently technically doable ?

It is definitely possible on a Hue bridge. I just need to find some time to add this to the app. There are lots of feature requests so it can take some time.

[Sed95 (Sed)]

Ok good news if it is doable, good luck and thanks again for your work !

[Thomas_Anderson]

No problem, i support you a little

https://IP/api/APIKEY/sensors/79/config

{“on”:true}
{“on”:false}

[Sed95 (Sed)]

Hi, not sure to understand, we can use this code somewhere in the app to setup the disable action on the dimmer action ?

[Thomas_Anderson]

No, but this is how to control A Sensor with an api request. Meanwhile i have create A temp Button with this request in A 3rd Part Software (mediola) to have a not Good but working solution. If Thomas create an function in Essentials it would be work much better.

This Post was A funny “we want this” reminder

I am sure Thomas is doing his best to create an all-around good software for us. So we have to wait and we will wait because It’s One of the best Software for hue.

Sorry for the confusion

[exakom]

I would also love this functionality!
There’s another scenario for me, too: I do have one motion sensor in my hall way and i want it to turn hall way AND kitchen on with nightlight (no door there) and when i stay in the kitchen (sensor doesn’t see me) i want to turn the lights brighter by dimmer switch but still want the hall way light to turn off automatically. Hope you understand what i try to explain (native german haha).
Will it also be possible?

thx anyway, dude. GREAT App!!!

[Thomas (Thomas Vos)]

This feature will be added in the next update. Version 1.18.0 on Android and 1.12.0 on iOS. It should be available within a few days, beta testers will receive the update earlier.

It is called “toggle sensor” and you can switch on or off a motion sensor.

Let me know if you have any questions or suggestions.

[Sed95 (Sed)]

Hi @Thomas , great news!
May I know if it will be possible to add several “toggle sensor” actions for different sensors in the same group of button actions?
For example to do this scenario : when I press “I” button switch on 2 sensors and when I press “O” switch off the 2 sensors?

Another question, as far as you know is it possible to use other sensors or only the Philips ones are managed?

Thanks a lot

[Thomas (Thomas Vos)]

It is possible to add multiple toggle sensor actions on the same button. Your scenario should work fine.

On a Philips Hue bridge only Philips Hue motion sensors are supported. Third party sensors are not visible in the app so cannot be used here. On a deCONZ gateway you should be able to use this action for other motion sensors as well.

[Thomas_Anderson]

Many many thanks for this!

Best men…

[Sed95 (Sed)]

Hi @Thomas I installed the beta v1.8 to test the new feature discussed in this topic and I found what I think is a bug, when I the dimmer switch action to switch on the motion detection of a sensor is triggered (the motion detection was disabled before) it automatically generates a motion detection event (and that’s not cool in my alarm enable/disable need ). Do you know why it works like that? is that a bug? if not do you know if there is a workaround ?
Thanks a lot!

Update : I have done some more tests, I confirm the bahavior that I described above but I also noticed that sometimes it does not trigger a motion detection event when the sensor is switched on, I’m wondering if somehow the sensor keeps in memory the last detection and if there is not enough time elapsed between the last event and the switch on it will trigger the last motion detection event, what do you think ?